Hes going to die in prison. Was it for total freedom to have a fresh start? I mean are you for real? I cant imagine how shanann is the one being attacked but not his mother, sister, or mistress. It wouldnt surprise me if Cindy Watts talked to Chris after the nut explosion and said Look, I am so sick of Shanann and those girls, if you dont divorce her or just get rid of her then I will tell her about your affair. What if just *one* of them would have decided to be a bigger person and make nice for the sake of Chris, whom they both loved? As for being attracted to Nichol Kessinger I can see why she is Gorgeous and unfortunately too often people go by looks and forget about character. Chris Watts' Parents He has a sister named Jamie Lynn Williams. No. Ronnie and Chris seemed to get this yet it ate away at something inside them so much they both resorted to extreme measures to ultimately cope: Ronnie cocaine and Chris murder. You, me, Ronnie, Jamie, all of us will get through this together, because we love you so much, Cindy Watts whimpered. Talking about his family, Chris's parents are his mother Cindy Watts, and his father Ronnie Watts. So an attack of Shanann [any attack] feels like an attack of who they are, and their belief systems. Chris was very close to his *father*, so while he might have tolerated a high level of ShanAnn aggression toward his *mother*, when she cut off *both* his parents, that was a bridge too far. If he were to get away with murder, he can still pretend to be Mr Perfect. If only Chris got a divorce. They just cannot stand this woman including her own son, Hi Beth, well to begin with. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Where the hell is she in all this? They still should have been the bigger people and just attended the wedding and put up & shut up. She was scapegoat because she established boundaries. That likely would have changed everything. The Watts family seems so weird and like they're missing the empathy "gene." This thread is archived I think they were allowed video calls, though. The text messages where she almost expects Chris to be reading her mindoverall there are just a lot of red flags that tell me she was likely a very toxic partner. Does the "we" refer to Ronnie and Jamie Williams [Chris Watts' sister] as well? You can have a nut true allergy to only one tree nut. I want you, then, if this is your decision, then you get in there and make something [inaudible]. Cindy didnt kill anybody. This was supposed to be a beautiful time in Shannans and Chris life. Jamies husband has worked hard getting his job. That argument falls apart when you consider Shanann and Cindy didnt get along. Divorce would have left them all with new lives. My question to Cindy Watts is who the hell would and could get along with you? Trust me., We support you 100%. Privacy Policy. She was far to good for them. Out of these cookies, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. JAMIE was the rebellious child in the family. Perhaps he was trying to save his daughters from the madness he knew he had for a long time. Do I think Shanann was a saint? #chriswatts, A post shared by Nick van der Leek (@nickvdleek) on Oct 30, 2018 at 12:28am PDT. They jabbered on and on and on AND THE WHOLE THING WAS CAUSED BY THEIR GOOD-FOR-NOTHING SON!!!! We didnt attend because Shanann and I just couldnt get along. Hold on. Maybe one day?. Others on his approved list from 2019 include parents Ronnie and Cynthia Watts, sister Jamie Williams and three other friends. I wish I could ask you more, Cindy murmured. Anyone who left a child with the Watts family were completely ignorant of how truly dangerous it was. They say its victim blaming, but a lot of the people who say that are also current or former MLMs and they identify very directly with her. Does anyone know how the video* of the conversation between Chris Watts and his sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, was leaked to the internet? Do you remember Neil Entwistle who tried to say his wife killed their child before herself? Their rage is deep seated and ends in a final act of murder, which seem totally out of character to all who felt they knew them. Shes a piece of work, that one. This is my decision. We know what she was like. i havent seen anyone bring her up or the fact that she even works at a hospital, or even as suspect for nicos murder but she def is in my book. She was you. What if he killed his (beautiful) children because, in some strange way, he was killing that child in himself, the one he loathed and felt great shame for. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. I think the reason why she and Chris mom didnt get along was due to that they were very similar. Do you hear yourself? He was sentenced to three consecutive life terms in prison plus 84 years in Nov. 2018 for his heinous crimes. What pictures did you use for the service? Watts asked his mother during the explosive one-on-one two-hour special. On that day Shanann posted a picture of her own mother for Mothers Day, gave credit to her husband for getting her the perfect Mothers Day gift, and also posted a cartoon dedicated to all the important women in her life but nothing on Cindy Watts. Then she gave Bella an icecream with nuts in it and left CeCe with none as she did not buy any special nut free food. Firstly, in the Casey Anthony case, Caylee died the day after Fathers Day. Tension and stress. But notice that, in the wake of NutGate, Chris commented to ShanAnn that she had put a dagger between him and his *father*. For me, this revelation enmity between Shanann and Cindy Watts reminds me of two aspects in two other cases. Thats just not factual at all. The constant bashing of Shanann. Chris Watts book Chris Watts' sister Jamie Watts. Shanann herself fed CeCe Thrive bars with nuts in them, but it was coconut which isnt considered a true tree nut. ago. Those invested in the case have wondered why she has yet to speak out. For more information, please see our For some of them they have a lot at stake in defending Shanann, theyre currently up to their eyeballs in their own MLM stuff, and theyre terrified of losing the gold mine they think this case has created for them. She didnt stir the shit enough was her problem. The incident at Cindis house where she exposed CeCe To nuts happened in July not on June 9th. Havent you held a grudge against anyone, ever? Just not now. Considering dates are set in advance, there was probably more to it then Jamie not getting off work. Did Chris Watts not mind his wife Shanann humiliating him on Facebook? What she did do is add to our fami,y and gave me two awesome grandsons. I mean, this was planned in advance. Theres people who believe Chris is a good guy, there are people who believe hes a monster, and then there are people who understand the complexity of the human condition and what might drive a person to a psychotic break which I think is exactly what happened. Both these families, had multiple discord amongst them all. So this is way more than some Freudian spiel to overcome a supposedly dominant mother. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Do your research. I had a mother in law like her. Would you put your child, no seatbelt, in a car with a drunk driver? Haha, that was my own mother. As soon as we intuit a reason, that is a motive, the Shanann camp get very angry. Wow..I think that you, like Cindy Watts, do not understand how dangerous a nut allergy is. Wow.boga.you must strictly be on shananns side. irrational buy-in to such an inevitable financial disaster. His former mistress on Inside Edition said they watched the movie Shutter Island the first night they had sex. So, Shannans reaction was on point. Or send them back to Shanaan. Shananns family are so nice and normal compared to Chriss. The scenario where Chris saw ShanAnn killing the girls wasnt Chris own idea originally. Archived post. He killed his family because he wanted a new life with his mistress not because he disliked his wife. Shanann was trying so damn hard to film a happy family moment, even calling out Poppa or Grandpa. Chris parents never looked back at her, waved or said one word. Oct 31 2015. Uh, the root of all evil is Chris Watts. Chris Watts on his wedding is his true self: a pudgy, pussy-whipped basic white male. I just want him to fight. So sad. Though I have no idea how he can sleep at night definitely didnt end up with the mistress being in jail and all. Quite a start huh? These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. That has got to hurt, though, if Chris Watts and Shan'ann's big day was all about Shan'ann, and Chris' family weren't even there. The wedding invitations the sister was in charge of but delibertely didnt mail out. He wanted his own wild child to have another run around the paddock. I see your point. One of the younger kids at the house pulled out some ice cream. If you are familiar with this movie then you know the main character kills his wife after she kills their children. She should have wrote them ALL off from day one. You were the kindest, kindest person there ever was, the mother continued. And his father enabled it. We just love you. This blog is meant to make only passing commentary of numerous issues and insights. By clicking Sign Up, you agree to our Terms and Conditions and that you have read our Privacy Policy. 2021 Original Media Group Corporation. Im not attempting to conflate the two choices, just the fact of the toll it took on them. I have two sons and there is nothing or anyone who could keep me from attending his wedding. It probably helped that her murder occurred shortly after a big blow up between Shannan and his parents. Pro-family, pro-killer. (With regard to CHRIS' background and upbringing.) Both were their mothers golden boys and both mothers disapproved of their daughter-in-laws. Article continues below advertisement Records show Nowak made. Did you watch Chris Watts sentencing hearing? THANK YOU. We know because the babysitter told the police all this during her interview with them. Although both families essentially lived in the same town, they apparently did not know each other or regularly cross paths, so this would have been a valuable opportunity to get to know each other better, since the families would now be linked together via the happy couple. THAT is what Shanann was dealing with. While Chris parents have been vocal about their son, his sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, remains silent. Watch out! I dont care what you did I love you so much and thats all there is to it!. I would never go by myself with my children to visit such a vicious woman like Cindi. She was pretty controlling. This site isnt in any camp except the true crime camp, which means investigate sometimes dispassionately what happened, and why. During her sons trial, Cindy added, I have always loved you and I still do. My understanding is that the Rzucek family is being harassed by online trolls receiving death threats, even but not the Watts family. But she disregarded the allergies. It was very obvious in the video that they didnt like her at all. Im not going to name them. 2022 Circle of Friends Donors . I think the pro Shanann camp needs to remember that discussing WHY Chris killed Shanann is NOT justifying what he did. Such a terribly sad case. I am a family therapist and wondered exactly the same. Jamie Lyn Williams, the sister of Colorado killer Chris Watts appears in an exclusive prison sit-down with her brother. A MUM killed alongside her two kids has had her final moments revealed in her evil husband's sick prison letters. I heard the same theory on Websleuths that Chris Watts was actually murdering his mother. CW had tended to side with Shanann against his mother until not long before the horrendous murders. They absolutely refuse to accept it. And was it just me or was it in poor taste (to say the least), Jamie talking to Chris about her kids and what they've been doing, pretending as if he HADN'T JUST MURDERED HIS OWN CHILDREN, JAMIE'S OWN NIECES?! No way his mother would have said that crap. I see a lot of people saying there are two camps in response to this and there really arent. These men are what is know as Family Annihilators. Monstrous dad Chris Watts was signaled to make up a story by his mother prior to pleading guilty to the murder of his pregnant wife and two daughters, exclusive video obtained by Your Content set to debut Oct. 23 reveals. That was not an excuse to kill her by any means but she was fairly toxic herself. Chris Watts, on the other hand, killed his pregnant wife AND his two living children. NOTHING. Shanann also posted a picture of Ronnie Watts on Fathers Day and paid tribute to her husband for being a great dad. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. I just read that: I grew up in upper middle class. If only his wife had a clue he was this dangerous, she could have had a fighting chance to get away from him. You were made for something else. There can also be a rhyme and reason to insanity, and its true crimes mission to find those rhymes and reasons. I also dont think she would have said she would tell about his affairs. The fact that he had several affairs while married essentially leading a completely double life which would include a lifestyle of lies to cover his tracks, speaks volumes to his character but I digress. Chris, I forgive you, and your sister forgives you and we will never abandon you.. [She looked so] serious. Your Content is a nonprofit newsroom that investigates abuses of power. I could almost hear Cindy Watts yelling and pressuring her husband to do so. Shannan freaked out because Cindy had ice cream in the house. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Its all in Chriss interview after the conviction and sentencing. So she travels to give them medicine or treatment. As far as I have read, this video is from when he was in the Colorado prison. This really upset Bella and she went crying to the v reliable and intelligent babysitter about it. Learn about the nut incident that happened when Shanann took the girls to his family for a visit. Privacy Policy. No need to be angry at me for trying to understand the family dynamics. 2 counts It is mandatory to procure user consent prior to running these cookies on your website. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Okay? Having said that, for CW parents to feel so strongly about Shannan that they didnt attend their own sons wedding then there must be a whole lot more to this that we dont know or understand. 11 mo. o His father worked as a Parts Manager for a Ford dealership. o His mother worked as a secretary and notary for a used car dealership. To me, all they wanted to do was save his life, just save his life. After he was moved to the Wisconsin prison, they were on his visitor's list but with the Covid lockdown and the distance, I doubt there were many in-person visits. Its always about control with these women. Powered by BlueHost . Chris just saw red and let his moms words take over.. She left a bag of pistachio nuts down on a low shelf, within reach of a 3 year old. Shannan would have gone down with a fight if she were awake. Are additional videos available of Chris with other visitors to prison? Required fields are marked *. Cookie Notice Sign up for breaking news email alerts from Your Content. Would you put your child, no seatbelt, in a car with a drunk driver. A child can die from eating even the tiniest piece of nut. Killing his own child insideI think its the opposite. Chris Watts 'rebellious' sister Jamie drops 'Watts' - Was loved by Chris Watts Wife TV NEWS 1.38K subscribers Subscribe Share 20K views 3 years ago #ShanannWatts #ChrisWatts #Thrive Chris. Blocking them on Facebook, refusing to come to Celestes birthday, sending her gift to Colorado rather than sending it over to her birthday party. But she disregarded the allergies. Her only mistake was marrying into a toxic family. Your email address will not be published. How was the prison video leaked of Chris Watts speaking with his sister, Jamie? Throughout all my reading of the case Ive never seen much about his sister Jamie (who I believe was Jamie Watts Williams according to SWs fb). Although she deleted her account shortly after posting these comments, I do believe this was likely Jaime Williams attempting to defend her brothers character and reputation. The sister wanted to get involved in the wedding planning nad volunteered to do the invitations. The grew up in a low class family. But couple all those angry feelings and then having to pay attention to 2 toddlers and work a taxing job, have a wife who is not really a good match for you who wants to separate you from your familyif he wasnt the type for this kind of lifestyle I could see how that would drive someone crazy. But he was afaird to speak up..why Shanann CHILLING footage shows the moment triple-murderer Chris Watts stops to buy breakfast on the morning he disposed of the bodies of his wife and children. She looks horrible by what she said in the interview and sandi rzucheks letter in discovery of what went on. Perhaps you could learn more before commenting with over the top emotion. I feel so sad for her family, they dont deserve this, Shanann was NOTHING like his mother. Hate to say it but Shanann emasculated him verbally a lot. I agree there are basically two camps one pro Shanann and one pro Chris. I think the whole family dynamics, along with the extended family, was just very toxic. A pregnant woman in her 15th week, just getting home at 1:48am from a business trip, who was already in the separation process, isnt going to snap and kill her two children. If this is indeed his sister, she knew about his affair with Nickole Sessinger prior to the murders. No, none of us are. I think in a way the denial phase is actually over, meaning shes had 3 months to process it, and now shes starting to fight. CW looks miserable on his wedding day whilst she looks elated she has her whole family there after all. I think you might be spot on. That has got to hurt, though, if Chris Watts and Shananns big day was all about Shanann, and Chris family werent even there. Chris Watts is a liar and like all sociopath narcissist did a smear campaign on Shanann. It wasnt about killing his inner child but resurrecting it. Didnt attend what? This sub is for factual information, mourning, and speculative discussion only - no harassment of the victims or family members. bothered him. There is also what woman called the schoolhis sister or mother or his mistress? This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. I mean that is so simple minded and silly. as shown by the way he disposed of his childrens bodies, you can plainly see that he never actually felt anything close to human emotion towards them. As to whether people attend weddings when one of their children is thrown out of the wedding, I dont know thats a personal choice, but it would be a hard one. Think of Ahab and Jezebel from the Bible. I have removed the annoying background noise from this interview because many people couldn't understand what Watts was saying.On February 18, 2019, three ag. She went to North Carolina for six weeks at the very end of June. If its true that the sister deliberately didnt mail out the invitations then shame on her as that is just wrong. Granted, she didnt have to plaster it on Facebook, but thats what people do nowadays. He was in North Carolina August 1-7, 2018.Growing up, his family attended First Baptist Church on a fairly regular basis. One of the primary activities at a wedding is to enable the two sides of the family to meet and get to know each other. Archived post. Granted I was only 15 when I married but I was married 20 years but we still had a great relationship until she passed, and I have 1 daughter-in-law and its the same way. But to restrict somebody and cut them off of their family is wrong. Right now doing everything they can, it-it just scares the living crap out of me knowing its come to this. Many people dont understand the severity of nut allergies. At 1:27 in this video link, Cindy Watts says it so quickly its easy to miss it completely. If they got along great, then thats a possible theory. Proof is in the planning, deliberate smothering of his 2 little girls TWICE, and murder of tgeir mother and baby Nico.all planned weeks in advance. Yes, you learn to compromise for the sake of your spouse.

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