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Ridgways victims were my age, I was in high school through most of it. There's a clip on YouTube of him explaining away his crimes to a reporter, everything is poor me, no one ever gave me any help, I just thought I'd try out some fantasies, etc, he's a sick sick dude, I agree with you on Kay, I'd like to sit down in a bar one night and listen to some stories, he seems like a really nice guy, Article I wrote a few months ago fills in some blanks on Reeve Whitson from 1967-1977:https://zodiackilleridentified.com/2021/07/I have another article of his career from 1977-1989 which is even more enlightening. This is the third time. Grim said"Ask yourself what it logically means to have "witnesses that vouch for Whitson's presence in the scene." I wouldn't base any findings on what she says. Maybe he was there during Sharon's lunch with friends but nobody saw him because he moved too fast. It involved every dirty trick in the book. 2. They were connected to Ed Durston, boyfriend of Diane Linkletter. He was a big talker and might have been a bit of Colonel Flagg type, but there is no doubt he had a lot of connections.How Whitson got so close to Bugliosi is strange and helped put pressure on Hatami. Can't shake old ways, he used to say" comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment CowOwn Additional comment actions ZLR 694 belonged to Sharon's CamaroI'm generally pretty unforgiving of errors in books and it's even more annoying when I happen to know the info that is wrong. ONeill got a lot of help for his book from Stephen Kay. What can anyone remember about a place they went yesterday, and I mean detail specific ? According to author Tom O'Neill, Hatami first shared his Charlie encounter story with possible CIA agent Reeve Whitson. He was connected with Nazis, top US Gov. They weren't even in the same vicinity while True lived at the house next door.And personally, I wouldn't read O'Neill's book unless someone bought it for me and gave it to me. I actually have been checking in most days since May. Ruth Wilson recently opened up more about why she left The Affair and claimed that she didn't feel safe on set. Reeve Whitson was a major player in the Laurel Canyon scene. But can you tell me where you read that Mike Deasy attacked Charles Manson with a pitchfork at Spahn's Ranch?I've never said that I read this. You should have a read of it if you haven't already, with particular attention given to the testimiony of Terry Melcher and Dean Mooorehouse.That Moorehouse had been to Cielo while Melcher lived there in the summer of '68 is no secret. There was no reason to send him back.until there was.Anybody on parole would be arrested immediately and sent back to prisonClearly that is not true. If he worked for Bugliosi I don't remember his name being mentioned in his book, unless it was just a sentence and I've forgotten it.BTW, Hatami took many pics of Sharon at Cielo Drive. When Manson and one of his CIA handlers, Reeve Whitson, rearranged the Tate murders crime scene before anyone else got there, they were literally setting the stage for the upcoming theatrical production. It had been there ever since Voityck and Gibby (Abigail Folger) moved in. What does that prove ? It was a probably Whitson tracking Abigail. He'd get arrested, that's all.That makes absolutely no senseIt makes abundant sense. That clears things up. pg201"Reeve was my main person to help me," PJ Tate said. I am in Chapter 6, when Reeve Whitson is just being introduced as the cryptic CIA agent "He used his thumbnail to tear the top-right-hand corner of every piece of paper he handled, to mark it. "pg203John Irvin, British film director: "Whitson had very good connections with the Los Angeles Sheriff's Office. 'Nuff said.Melcher moved out of Cielo Drive in December of 1968. Not now, however. Whitson was apparently an enigmatic figure, but counted among his friends a large segment of Hollywood and business. A lot of people who were involved in this event are dead now, some won't talk and others have spoken of what they know. And even then I might not look at it for 5 years. Folger was a former intelligence officer during WWII and maintained those contacts long after the war. If LE and the CIA were so powerful, why didn't they just pin it on the innocent ? He was a very dark player. I read Chaos, but came to a very different conclusion. So he proved his willingness to collude with the Feds. His daughter is a Bluebird survivor and her memories are returning in fractured pieces. Melcher moved out in January '69 and the day after he moved out, Moorehouse was sent to prison for selling acid ~ he'd been found guilty on Dec 17th '68.The interesting thing about the Hearst times in "HS" is that both in terms of the police report and the court testimony, what is given in the book is inaccurate but not exactly uncheckable and not of earth shattering proportions. When I think of those kinds of things, I actually start to get scared. Average Age & Life Expectancy Reeve Whitson lived 9 years shorter than the average Whitson family member when they died at the age of 63. ONeill also was given access to never-before-seen documents showing that DeCarlo said that Melcher made three visits to Spahn Ranch after the murders and spoke with Manson. Krenny later testified that she was sure the American Flag on the sofa wasn't there during the murders.And the scene was littered with marijuana and cocaine, even though no residues of those drugs were found in the body fluids of the dead.I am now thinking those items were planted at the scene to subtly demonize the victims and to enable police to go off on their sham 'drug burn' diversion. Speaking of Dean Moorehouse at Cielo Drive, I thought the following quotes in Tom O'Neill's article "The Holes in Helter Skelter" show that he was indeed at the house but during the summer of 1968.Tom O'Neill writes:But when had Moorehouse taken up residence in the Cielo Home? It's such a huge book with such a plethora of facts and information that one can semi-overlook things that don't make a material difference to the case. That doesn't make any sense. He was not very intelligent an IQ around 85 he was a savant to murder instinctively knew how to kill and get rid of bodies. Chapters are as followed: Prologue The Crime of the Century An Aura of Danger The Golden Penetrators The Holes in Helter Skelter Amnesia at the L.A. County Sheriff's Office Who Was Reeve Whitson? He never worked for the CIA, or any other federal agency. Regarding Whitson's interest in sportscars, author Tom O'Neill wrote in his book Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA and the Secret History of the Sixties: C'mon Grim, you know betterThe big reveal was that Danny DeCarlo "ratted out" the Manson crew which was against the biker code.But that has been public knowledge since September 1970.And no, I don't know better. I find that hard to believe.In Krenwinkel's first parole hearing, she pretty much said she didn't remember anything about that night except chasing down Gibby. Mon Durphy said"Winifred testified that the flag was on the couch THE DAYS LEADING UP TO THE MURDERS AND THE DAY OF"Where did she say that? He dumped bodies in Portland and there are a bunch of missing prostitutes in that time frame in Portland as well. Lotus, Brabham, McLaren, Cooper and a few others joined, but the venture failed because Whitson . I don't buy into Bugliosis's Helter Skelter narrative however some of the girls have attested to This. According to Bobby Jameson on his blog, he and his friend Harvey Dareff were at or near the Tate house the night before the murders. O'Neill also quotes the LAPD's Lt. Helder, who refers to Whitson in the book "Five Down at Cielo Dr" under a pseudonym "Walter Kern," confirmed by LaJeunesse. Maybe Whit Reeveson is like an imaginary friend. According to Sanders, p. 197, Hurst came between 6:30 and 7:00. "Thanks Grim,Another, more serious, error in HS, p. 49, is that it gives the license plate of Parent's car as ZLR 694. At the same time he was befriending CIA agent Reeve Whitson, Manson was also meeting with Charles Winans, an operative from Naval Intelligence. Mon Durphy, youre forgetting Manson, his mysterious partner, and of course Whitson who was in the house after the murders but before the police came. It was very tempting to engage in some of the posts, especially with Destroyer of Opinions. Neutralizing the Left The Lawyer Swap Manson's Get-Out-of-Jail-Free Card The Haight-Ashbury Free Medical Clinic Mind Control Where Does It All Go? He told and then showed where a lot of missing women were. He didn't molest his daughters, he was supposedly so protective of Ruth Ann that he originally set out to kill Charlie after hearing about her joining up with the group, as far as the acts on a child under 14 if they're true he deserved a beating within an inch of his life but at the same time you'd have to do the same to Melcher, Wilson, Jakobsen, Manson, Deasy, Polanskis, etc, etc, etc. It belonged to them. 'We were introduced to Art Linklater, and we were also given tickets for a show by Reeve, where, during the interval, we met Andrew Lloyd Webber and Sarah Brightman backstage in their dressing room,' Alistair told me. While Manson was near the porch, Sharon Tate came to the door to ask who it was, and saw Manson. I really loved Peter Levenda's "Sinister Forces" three volume set. He's interesting because he's made up or at least his story is, it's a figment of someone's imagination, I laughed just as hard at this as I did at David Berkowitzs claim of his neighbors dog telling him to kill lol. It might have been more accurate to say that Hatami said the name once and Bugliosi said it three times, but I don't see how O'Neill could have put that in his text without appearing overly pedantic. However, I am not disputing O'Neill's sources. William Weston saidHatamis testimony on Whitson. I found Whitson to be the most interesting of the characters that O'Neill presented. Winans was the one who coordinated the Tate-LaBianca killings. How did O'Neill get the transcript to the book, I heard Debra had it? I'm pretty sure the last time Doris was in the house was for the watching of the moon landing but I do remember her saying it was there though I highly doubt it was upside down like the pics from Aug 9 show, I can't imagine that would be too cool with Col Paul lol, Just as a general statement regarding the killers you have to take into account that BY THEIR OWN ADMISSION they took HUNDREDS of trips on hallucinogenic drugs in addition to smoking marijuana daily, these people are bound to forget various things that most look at as things that are mere footnotes such as what piece of furniture was where, who said what first, where the flag was, what time it was, etc, etc. Now, you'll know from past exchanges that I don't take what you have to say with any seriousness, not because I'm disinterested in what you say, but because you continually dangle but don't deliver. Some sources report that Susan Atkins didn't do any stabbing that she called upon Tex to do it for her. Has anyone ever heard of it?According to the manuscript, Helder told Whitson to cozy up to anyone who knew Frykowskis suppliers, especially those in Mama Casss circle. He's never going to be executed but hopefully he will suffer a long painful death. It's a similar story regarding where the LaBiancas lived, what with all the rumours and theories about Leno moaning about the noise from Harold True's house or chewing out Charlie ~ when a bit of checking will reveal that it never happened. That dude killed 50+ women and bargained for his life. This comment has been removed by the author. starviego saidI am now thinking those items were planted at the scene to subtly demonize the victims and to enable police to go off on their sham 'drug burn' diversion.I agree. Or better yet, he's like "The Flash". When they got to Cielos gate, he started asking weird questions about the cars in the lots. I have these numbers from ONeills book in reference to Hatami and Whitson: 22239, 14483, 14508, 14542, 14554There's nothing connected with him on page 22239 ~ that's Squeaky's testimony. That said, in some cases it's understandable.In the case of Bugliosi's book, the errors regarding the Hearst bike delivery times and the Parent/Sharon car registrations aren't ones that I regard as serious. endstream endobj 78 0 obj <>/Metadata 16 0 R/Outlines 28 0 R/PageLabels 73 0 R/Pages 75 0 R/StructTreeRoot 29 0 R/Type/Catalog/ViewerPreferences<>>> endobj 79 0 obj <. It's all bullcrap, I may not be a believer in Helter Skelter being the motive but some of these conspiracy theories are beyond ridiculous, Reeve knew where all the bodies were buried, and who was involved. But again, nobody saw him. I'd be willing to buy it if you ever put just a amateurish copy of it together, at 1200 pgs it sounds like you've got alot of content in it, what would make it EXTRA special is if it was indexed, so often I've found myself looking for info on a specific person, date, place, incident, quote, etc and then having to Wade through a million google entries that go nowhere and in the case of some of the minutia of the case not being able to find anything at all on it, Also by "amateurish" I don't mean the content of it but the presentation, I'm not looking for anything put together by a professional publishing company or anything. I won't accept something just because someone says it. He was driving a VW van. So I think, like Mon says, the flag was there and Krenwinkel either didn't notice it or was was lying. What ONeill said was that Whitsons name appeared four times, all during Hatamis testimony. When you have what Hatami testified and what Bugliosi testified regarding Hatamis testimony and gather these statements together under the aggregate phrase Hatamis testimony, then you can see that ONeill was not careless in how he represented his source. Virtually all of the info I've dug up about Whitson parallels what my friend remembers with the exception of Whitson's family ties. ONeill interviewed Hatami who said that Bugliosi knew Reeve very wellHow would Hatami, who met Bugliosi only a couple of times, and on official business {ID photos, trial} know who Bugliosi knew, well or otherwise ?Hatami also told ONeill that he first heard about the murders from Reeve.